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	<title>Comments on: Identify Opera With Your Linux Distro!</title>
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		<title>By: dael99</title>
		<link>http://kyleabaker.com/2010/07/22/identify-opera-with-your-linux-distro/comment-page-1/#comment-96577</link>
		<dc:creator>dael99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 19:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, how do I look?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[using <img src='http://kyleabaker.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-useragent/img/16/net/opera-2.png' title='Opera 11.51' style='border:0px;vertical-align:middle;' alt='Opera 11.51' /> <a href='http://www.opera.com/' title='Opera 11.51' rel='nofollow'>Opera 11.51</a> on <img src='http://kyleabaker.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-useragent/img/16/os/ubuntu-2.png' title='Ubuntu 11.04 x64' style='border:0px;vertical-align:middle;' alt='Ubuntu 11.04 x64' /> <a href='http://www.ubuntu.com/' title='Ubuntu 11.04 x64' rel='nofollow'>Ubuntu 11.04 x64</a><br /><small>Opera/9.80 (X11; Linux x86_64; U; Opera/9.80 (X11; Linux x86_64; U; Ubuntu/11.04; es-ES) Presto/2.9.168 Version/11.51; es-ES) Presto/2.9.168 Version/11.51</small><p>So, how do I look?</p>
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		<title>By: neneLinux</title>
		<link>http://kyleabaker.com/2010/07/22/identify-opera-with-your-linux-distro/comment-page-1/#comment-20115</link>
		<dc:creator>neneLinux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 05:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah I love it :D excellent job 

your have a updated :D thank you very much</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[using <img src='http://kyleabaker.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-useragent/img/16/net/opera-2.png' title='Opera 10.61' style='border:0px;vertical-align:middle;' alt='Opera 10.61' /> <a href='http://www.opera.com/' title='Opera 10.61' rel='nofollow'>Opera 10.61</a> on <img src='http://kyleabaker.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-useragent/img/16/os/ubuntu-2.png' title='Ubuntu 10.04' style='border:0px;vertical-align:middle;' alt='Ubuntu 10.04' /> <a href='http://www.ubuntu.com/' title='Ubuntu 10.04' rel='nofollow'>Ubuntu 10.04</a><br /><small>Opera/9.80 (X11; Linux i686; U; ubuntu/10.04; es-ES) Presto/2.6.30 Version/10.61</small><p>yeah I love it <img src='http://kyleabaker.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  excellent job </p>
<p>your have a updated <img src='http://kyleabaker.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  thank you very much</p>
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		<title>By: neneLinux</title>
		<link>http://kyleabaker.com/2010/07/22/identify-opera-with-your-linux-distro/comment-page-1/#comment-20111</link>
		<dc:creator>neneLinux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 04:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi can you tell me where can downloader you opera theme with orange buttons and opera menu black??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[using <img src='http://kyleabaker.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-useragent/img/16/net/opera-2.png' title='Opera 10.61' style='border:0px;vertical-align:middle;' alt='Opera 10.61' /> <a href='http://www.opera.com/' title='Opera 10.61' rel='nofollow'>Opera 10.61</a> on <img src='http://kyleabaker.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-useragent/img/16/os/ubuntu-2.png' title='Ubuntu 10.04' style='border:0px;vertical-align:middle;' alt='Ubuntu 10.04' /> <a href='http://www.ubuntu.com/' title='Ubuntu 10.04' rel='nofollow'>Ubuntu 10.04</a><br /><small>Opera/9.80 (X11; Linux i686; U; ubuntu/10.04; es-ES) Presto/2.6.30 Version/10.61</small><p>hi can you tell me where can downloader you opera theme with orange buttons and opera menu black??</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mozilla already stopped including kernel versions in their strings. Here is an older Mozilla string to demonstrate:

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.4.3-20mdk i586; en-US; rv:0.9.1) Gecko/20010611

They considered this a security problem to be so specific so it was dropped. There has been an open bugzilla entry for some time about dropping specific versions of Windows too. When you have the browser AND OS version then you start to run into issues.

But the point is that Opera is the  *same* on every platform... they distribute the binaries and can give the same product everywhere. On Mozilla-based, Konqueror, etc you have a browser that is rebuilt and sometimes modified by the packagers so it makes sense to put the distro name in the package as something may differ. Although since it&#039;s almost always the same rendering I still find it redundant, there is more reason than changing a string to represent a browser that is no difference. If you download a binary off of ftp.mozilla.org, it is still generic. 

I&#039;m not sure if distros in the string are really that much of a security flaw, but when you know more and more information about a user&#039;s system from the user agent, it makes it that much harder to exploit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[using <img src='http://kyleabaker.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-useragent/img/16/net/opera-2.png' title='Opera 10.60' style='border:0px;vertical-align:middle;' alt='Opera 10.60' /> <a href='http://www.opera.com/' title='Opera 10.60' rel='nofollow'>Opera 10.60</a> on <img src='http://kyleabaker.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-useragent/img/16/os/linux.png' title='GNU/Linux x64' style='border:0px;vertical-align:middle;' alt='GNU/Linux x64' /> <a href='http://www.linux.org/' title='GNU/Linux x64' rel='nofollow'>GNU/Linux x64</a><br /><small>Opera/9.80 (X11; Linux x86_64; U; en) Presto/2.6.30 Version/10.60</small><p>Mozilla already stopped including kernel versions in their strings. Here is an older Mozilla string to demonstrate:</p>
<p>Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.4.3-20mdk i586; en-US; rv:0.9.1) Gecko/20010611</p>
<p>They considered this a security problem to be so specific so it was dropped. There has been an open bugzilla entry for some time about dropping specific versions of Windows too. When you have the browser AND OS version then you start to run into issues.</p>
<p>But the point is that Opera is the  *same* on every platform&#8230; they distribute the binaries and can give the same product everywhere. On Mozilla-based, Konqueror, etc you have a browser that is rebuilt and sometimes modified by the packagers so it makes sense to put the distro name in the package as something may differ. Although since it&#8217;s almost always the same rendering I still find it redundant, there is more reason than changing a string to represent a browser that is no difference. If you download a binary off of <a href="http://ftp.mozilla.org" rel="nofollow">http://ftp.mozilla.org</a>, it is still generic. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if distros in the string are really that much of a security flaw, but when you know more and more information about a user&#8217;s system from the user agent, it makes it that much harder to exploit.</p>
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		<title>By: kyleabaker</title>
		<link>http://kyleabaker.com/2010/07/22/identify-opera-with-your-linux-distro/comment-page-1/#comment-17964</link>
		<dc:creator>kyleabaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 01:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess Linux Mint must alter the preferences file on their own. Interesting! :D

In my opinion, introducing your platform type is no different than introducing your browser type. Tons of browsers are built around WebKit and Firefox, but they all tend to specify their own branding.

Likewise, its a good idea in my opinion to let server administrators know not just which browser you are using to access their content, but the specific Linux distribution as well so that they can get an idea of the level of support that they should offer.

If the platform specification were such a security risk, browsers wouldn&#039;t announce specific Windows or Mac versions in the ua-string, and they ALL do this already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[using <img src='http://kyleabaker.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-useragent/img/16/net/opera-2.png' title='Opera 10.70' style='border:0px;vertical-align:middle;' alt='Opera 10.70' /> <a href='http://www.opera.com/' title='Opera 10.70' rel='nofollow'>Opera 10.70</a> on <img src='http://kyleabaker.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-useragent/img/16/os/ubuntu-2.png' title='Ubuntu 10.10 x64' style='border:0px;vertical-align:middle;' alt='Ubuntu 10.10 x64' /> <a href='http://www.ubuntu.com/' title='Ubuntu 10.10 x64' rel='nofollow'>Ubuntu 10.10 x64</a><br /><small>Opera/9.80 (X11; Linux x86_64; U; Ubuntu/10.10; en) Presto/2.6.30 Version/10.70</small><p>I guess Linux Mint must alter the preferences file on their own. Interesting! <img src='http://kyleabaker.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>In my opinion, introducing your platform type is no different than introducing your browser type. Tons of browsers are built around WebKit and Firefox, but they all tend to specify their own branding.</p>
<p>Likewise, its a good idea in my opinion to let server administrators know not just which browser you are using to access their content, but the specific Linux distribution as well so that they can get an idea of the level of support that they should offer.</p>
<p>If the platform specification were such a security risk, browsers wouldn&#8217;t announce specific Windows or Mac versions in the ua-string, and they ALL do this already.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://kyleabaker.com/2010/07/22/identify-opera-with-your-linux-distro/comment-page-1/#comment-17950</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 01:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is the point of introducing another element into the user agent string? This seems like a bit of a security flaw when being so specific. 

Linux Mint&#039;s Opera already has it&#039;s distro name built in. Here&#039;s how it does it:

Opera/9.80 (X11; Linux x86_64; U; Linux Mint; en) Presto/2.2.15 Version/10.10</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[using <img src='http://kyleabaker.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-useragent/img/16/net/opera-2.png' title='Opera 10.60' style='border:0px;vertical-align:middle;' alt='Opera 10.60' /> <a href='http://www.opera.com/' title='Opera 10.60' rel='nofollow'>Opera 10.60</a> on <img src='http://kyleabaker.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-useragent/img/16/os/linux.png' title='GNU/Linux x64' style='border:0px;vertical-align:middle;' alt='GNU/Linux x64' /> <a href='http://www.linux.org/' title='GNU/Linux x64' rel='nofollow'>GNU/Linux x64</a><br /><small>Opera/9.80 (X11; Linux x86_64; U; en) Presto/2.6.30 Version/10.60</small><p>What is the point of introducing another element into the user agent string? This seems like a bit of a security flaw when being so specific. </p>
<p>Linux Mint&#8217;s Opera already has it&#8217;s distro name built in. Here&#8217;s how it does it:</p>
<p>Opera/9.80 (X11; Linux x86_64; U; Linux Mint; en) Presto/2.2.15 Version/10.10</p>
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		<title>By: kyleabaker</title>
		<link>http://kyleabaker.com/2010/07/22/identify-opera-with-your-linux-distro/comment-page-1/#comment-17926</link>
		<dc:creator>kyleabaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 09:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How are you modifying the string at the end? I thought I saw a tutorial for this from you a while back, but I couldn&#039;t find it anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[using <img src='http://kyleabaker.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-useragent/img/16/net/opera-2.png' title='Opera 10.70' style='border:0px;vertical-align:middle;' alt='Opera 10.70' /> <a href='http://www.opera.com/' title='Opera 10.70' rel='nofollow'>Opera 10.70</a> on <img src='http://kyleabaker.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-useragent/img/16/os/ubuntu-2.png' title='Ubuntu 10.10 x64' style='border:0px;vertical-align:middle;' alt='Ubuntu 10.10 x64' /> <a href='http://www.ubuntu.com/' title='Ubuntu 10.10 x64' rel='nofollow'>Ubuntu 10.10 x64</a><br /><small>Opera/9.80 (X11; Linux x86_64; U; Ubuntu/10.10; en) Presto/2.6.30 Version/10.70</small><p>How are you modifying the string at the end? I thought I saw a tutorial for this from you a while back, but I couldn&#8217;t find it anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Tamil</title>
		<link>http://kyleabaker.com/2010/07/22/identify-opera-with-your-linux-distro/comment-page-1/#comment-17925</link>
		<dc:creator>Tamil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 09:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[using <img src='http://kyleabaker.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-useragent/img/16/net/opera-2.png' title='Opera 10.70' style='border:0px;vertical-align:middle;' alt='Opera 10.70' /> <a href='http://www.opera.com/' title='Opera 10.70' rel='nofollow'>Opera 10.70</a> on <img src='http://kyleabaker.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-useragent/img/16/os/ubuntu-2.png' title='Ubuntu 10.04' style='border:0px;vertical-align:middle;' alt='Ubuntu 10.04' /> <a href='http://www.ubuntu.com/' title='Ubuntu 10.04' rel='nofollow'>Ubuntu 10.04</a><br /><small>Opera/9.80 (X11; Linux i686; U; en) Presto/2.6.30 Version/10.70 Ubuntu/10.04</small><p> <img src='http://kyleabaker.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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